47. Molly Hendry on the Bergamo Landscape Festival

MOLLY HENDRY BIO

Molly toggles the worlds of design and plants as both a trained horticulturist and landscape architect. She has stepped out to create her own garden design studio, Roots and Ramblings, where she does design work for folks in the Birmingham, Alabama area and beyond. With this studio, Molly is most interested in the intersection between people and places. She loves designing gardens for "hands in the dirt" gardeners, focusing on how design is not just a masterplan on a piece of paper, but an ongoing dialogue between a person and a place... often with a spade in hand!

Up through July 2023, she was the Associate Director of Gardens Support for the Friends of Birmingham Botanical Gardens for 5 and a half years. There she was actively involved in the horticultural and design development of the 26 unique gardens that make up Birmingham Botanical Gardens. One of her top honors is that she spent 10 months living in the UK, sinking her hands into the soil at some of the top gardens across the country as the Garden Club of America's 2016–2017 Royal Horticultural Society's Interchange Fellow. You can learn more about Molly by visiting her website Roots and Ramblings and by following her on Instagram @mollshendry.

SHOW NOTES

  • The origins and setting of the International Landscape Festival in Bergamo, Italy

  • How the medieval village atmosphere adds to the inspiration of the festival experience

  • Molly’s first trip to Bergamo and how it became a must-attend annual event

  • The structure of the weeklong program, including workshops, seminars, and the international meeting

  • Reflections on the workshop The Essential Tree Selection Guide by Henrik Sjöman and Arit Anderson

  • How tree selection should go beyond aesthetics to consider ecological function and long-term success

  • The importance of understanding trees as part of a successional process rather than static design elements

  • Reframing design as an ongoing process and not a finished product

  • Challenges in creating adaptable landscapes in the face of a changing climate

  • The concept of holding back part of a project budget for future edits and adaptive management

  • Lessons from Birmingham’s City Walk project and the need for long-term maintenance planning

  • How collaboration between designers, contractors, and municipalities can improve project outcomes

  • Reflections on sourcing challenges and how nursery practices shape plant availability

  • Why designers must work with growers and contractors to expand plant diversity in the trade

  • The balance between ecological succession and functional considerations like maintenance

  • The joy of meeting and learning from designer Sarah Price at Bergamo

  • Sarah’s design for Piazza Vecchia and how it blended art, place, and ecology

  • The influence of a medieval painting on Sarah’s design

  • Insights from Tom Stuart-Smith and gardener Katie Barrington on designer–gardener collaboration

  • Why gardeners should be brought in early and valued as co-creators in the process

  • Tom’s idea of being a conductor of something in motion rather than author of a static design

  • Katie’s reflections on public engagement and the human connections gardens foster

  • James Hitchmough’s focus on designing plantings based on their future management needs

  • The crucial question of who will maintain and fund ecologically rich plantings long term

  • Global perspectives on valuing horticultural labor and training future land stewards

  • Jon Hazelwood with the Melbourne project as a model for collaborative, research-based design

  • How integrating trial gardens and management planning during design leads to stronger outcomes

  • Molly’s experience applying similar collaborative lessons in her own design projects

  • Reflections on Mariana Siqueira’s presentation about restoring Brazil’s Cerrado grasslands

  • How Mariana’s persistence and partnership with a supportive client helped reintroduce native plants

  • The reassurance of hearing international designers face similar challenges

  • Takeaways from Hans Hesslein and Martha Keen of Apiary Studio’s presentation on creative reuse of materials and on-site storytelling

  • How Hans and Martha blend design, craft, and sustainability through resourceful construction

  • Inspiration to see hardscape elements as expressive, not merely functional

  • Lessons from Spanish designer Fernando Martos and his collaborator Carlos Rodriguez on managing naturalistic gardens

  • The camaraderie and creative renewal that comes from international conferences

  • Insights from redesigning Colonial Lake Park in Charleston, balancing resilience and beauty

  • Using Google docs to track ideas about different species for the project

  • The importance of integrating horticultural teams into the design process

  • Allowing on-site adjustments to improve outcomes and treat design as living collaboration

  • The possibility of creating a Bergamo-style design festival in the American Southeast

  • Why the Southeast is ripe for deeper horticultural exchange and ecological innovation

  • The regional diversity within southern plant communities and the value of sharing knowledge

  • Molly’s belief that design education should cultivate hands-on experience and curiosity

  • The idea of creating a gardening school or workshop space to empower homeowners through practice

  • How the Garden Gab podcast helps nurture beginner curiosity and confidence

  • Encouraging gardeners to experiment, make mistakes, and learn by doing

  • The value of small beginnings—like a single container—toward building joy and connection with plants

  • Reflections on how parenting and life changes shift perspective on maintenance and ecology

  • Observations on groundcover challenges in the Southeast and the need for continuous soil coverage

  • How to propagate more gardeners by connecting children to nature and fostering wonder early and cultivating joy through gardening

  • You can learn more about Molly by visiting her website Roots and Ramblings and by following her on Instagram @mollshendry.

44. Kelly Holdbrooks on Southern Highlands Reserve

KELLY HOLDBROOKS BIO

With decades of experience in Western North Carolina’s vast horticulture, Kelly Holdbrooks demonstrates her passion for fostering human connection with nature in everything she does. For more than a decade as executive director of Southern Highlands Reserve, a nonprofit native plant garden and research center on Toxaway Mountain, Kelly has built a network of conservationists and advocates for preserving the unique ecosystem of the Southern Appalachian Mountains. Kelly’s research in experiential methods and the humanism of nature earned her a master’s degree in landscape architecture, with honors, from the College of Environment and Design at the University of Georgia. She also earned bachelor’s degrees in international studies and political science from Rhodes College and was a three-sport NCAA athlete. She is a founding member of the Southern Appalachian Spruce Restoration Initiative (SASRI), a public-private partnership working to restore the second most endangered ecosystem in the United States, the high elevation spruce-fir forests of the Southern Blue Ridge. She is a member of the Red Spruce Technical Advisory Board (RSTAB), headed by The Nature Conservancy, to make recommendations to the U.S. Forest Service for their regional planning efforts. She also participates in the quarterly All Lands Meeting held by the U.S. Forest Service to develop a long-term collaborative plan for natural resource conservation across Region 8. Kelly enjoys hiking, gardening, yoga, and playing in nature with her family. She is proud to call Western North Carolina her home.

You can learn more about Kelly and Southern Highlands Reserve by visiting their website and Instagram @southern_highlands_reserve.

SHOW NOTES

  • How Kelly's childhood in Tennessee and family garden experiences ignited her love for plants

  • Transitioning from a degree in political science to working in landscaping and pursuing landscape architecture

  • Choosing to work manual labor jobs in Asheville to gain hands-on horticultural experience

  • The importance of trusting your gut and following passion over societal expectations

  • A serendipitous encounter in a restaurant that led to discovering Southern Highlands Reserve

  • Driving up Toxaway Mountain for the first time and feeling an immediate connection to the site

  • The founding story of Southern Highlands Reserve by Robert and Betty Balentine and how land once slated for development became a conservation easement

  • Surveying the land to understand its ecological significance and formally establishing the Reserve

  • Protecting spray cliff waterfall communities that would’ve been lost to development

  • The significance of the endemic Rhododendron vaseyi (pink-shell azalea) population on the property

  • The small team and key staff members that help maintain and grow the Reserve’s mission

  • Projects focused on conserving plants of the Southern Blue Ridge and contributing to broader biodiversity goals

  • Collaborating on wetland restoration in Great Smoky Mountains National Park and successful native plant propagation

  • Partnering with Atlanta Botanical Garden to germinate Torreya taxifolia (Florida torreya) seeds using biochar, despite challenges with squirrels

  • Biochar’s surprising success in aiding seed germination and growth in experimental trials

  • Contributing to the Southern Appalachian Spruce Restoration Initiative (SASRI)

  • The red spruce restoration work and growing tall plugs for underplanting in deciduous forests

  • The unique relationship between flying squirrels and red spruce trees

  • Observing a truffle firsthand while working with biologists on spruce habitat

  • An overview of Kelly’s favorite parts of Southern Highlands Reserve

  • Highlighting the Wildflower Labyrinth and pond garden room as especially meaningful and ecologically rich

  • Advocating for careful observation of landscapes through different conditions as the foundation for conservation

  • The design approach of “don’t mess it up” and “polish the stone” guiding garden development

  • Gary Smith’s original design and support for adapting plantings in response to climate change

  • How conservation is gardening and really observing a space

  • Emphasizing the long-term nature of conservation and the importance of partnerships

  • Personal experience transforming a yard from exotic invasives to native biodiversity

  • The role home gardens and even green roofs can play in conservation efforts

  • Seeing dramatic increases in biodiversity in her own yard after going chemical-free for eight years

  • Explaining assisted migration as a response to climate change for isolated species

  • Reflecting on a 2013 biodiversity survey that showed greater diversity in cultivated garden areas than surrounding wild areas

  • How added water features and human care increased biodiversity in garden rooms

  • Finding inspiration from nature

  • Rebuilding after Hurricane Helene and observing its devastating effects on Western North Carolina

  • The emotional toll of the storm and the human response to come together and support one another

  • Partnering with US Forest Service to assess storm damage and plan targeted restoration efforts

  • Managing stormwater as a critical concern in mountain environments and beyond

  • Building a new greenhouse designed to increase red spruce production and improve visitor experience

  • Installing extensive green infrastructure like rain gardens, bogs, and French drains to manage runoff

  • The greenhouse project successfully withstanding Hurricane Helene's stormwater test

  • Gratitude to funders and volunteers who made the greenhouse and other efforts possible

  • Finding creative flow through hands-on gardening and spending time in the landscape

  • Favorite go-to books Wildflowers of Tennessee, the Ohio Valley, and the Southern Appalachians by Dennis Horn, Tavia Cathcart, Thomas Hemmerly, and David Duhl and Planting in a Post-Wild World by Thomas Rainer and Claudia West

  • Dispelling the myth that everyone has the capacity to have a green thumb with the right mindset

  • Excitement about a newly constructed mountain bog garden showcasing rare and endangered species

  • Thoughts on how artists and gardeners are deeply connected through slow, creative processes

  • How to propagate more gardeners and conservation by choosing connection, compassion, and curiosity over division

  • You can learn more about Kelly and Southern Highlands Reserve by visiting their website and Instagram @southern_highlands_reserve.

35. Ben O'Brien on Wild by Design

BEN O’BRIEN BIO

Ben O'Brien is the owner of Wild by Design, a naturalistic garden design business in Prince Edward County in Ontario that specializes in artfully crafted, richly planted, lovingly tended gardens. For the past decade Ben's passion for plants has informed a wide range of projects, from small town gardens to large rural properties and urban public spaces. Ben's trial garden research explores innovative ways to create beautiful, biodiverse and resilient designed plant communities. 

Ben has presented a webinar specifically focused on his trials for Garden Masterclass (UK), and appeared on their popular "Thursday Garden Chat" interview series. He has been a speaker for horticultural societies and professional landscape audiences across Ontario, and has written articles for the Ecological Landscape Alliance, the American Society of Landscape Architects' Professional Practice blog and Ground Magazine, published by the Ontario Association of Landscape Architects. You can learn more about Ben by visiting his instagram Wild by Design and his website Wild by Design, where he has multiple resources about grit gardening and the plant list.

SHOW NOTES

  • Ben O'Brien shared how his love for plants began with his rural upbringing in Ontario, surrounded by wild landscapes, and how studying landscape architecture at the University of Guelph solidified his passion.

  • The epiphany of visiting the High Line in New York City, which inspired him to explore naturalistic planting design.

  • Ben emphasized the "sweet spot" between ecological restoration and traditional horticulture, which he sees as a magical space for planting design.

  • In college, much of his knowledge about planting design came from self-directed study, including influences from books like Planting in a Post-Wild World and works by Nigel Dunnett, James Hitchmough, and Piet Oudolf.

  • His undergraduate thesis focused on how naturalistic plantings can shift perceptions about the natural world and demonstrate positive human influence.

  • When approaching planting design, Ben prioritizes understanding soils, microclimates, and site conditions.

  • The importance of layers in planting, filling every niche, and the CSR strategies of plants.

  • The value of experimenting with plant architecture and creating resilient plant communities through trial-and-error approaches.

  • Ben highlighted the challenges and benefits of using stress-tolerant substrates like grit, recycled concrete, and sand to grow diverse plant communities with minimal inputs.

  • He detailed his trials on planting into recycled materials, emphasizing how specific substrate compositions can reduce weeds and encourage long-term plant survival.

  • Ben reflected on the importance of ongoing management and stewardship in naturalistic plantings, sharing insights from his experiences maintaining client projects over several years.

  • The need for landscape architects and horticulturists to embrace innovative planting methods and reconsider traditional soil and mulch approaches.

  • Ben stressed the importance of publicizing successful trials and results to encourage adoption of new planting techniques.

  • He discussed the potential for rotational disturbance-based planting models to sustain dynamic plant communities over time.

  • Big successes and failures that he had from the trials.

  • Approaches to planting woody plants into gravel.

  • Limitations to naturalistic planting including plant knowledge and management issues.

  • The need to invest in management and stewardship of designed landscapes, suggesting that the future of naturalistic planting depends on skilled and supported caretakers and being able to see how plantings change over time.

  • Ben shared his perspective on balancing native and non-native species in planting, advocating for a thoughtful, context-dependent approach.

  • UGA’s pollinator study on pollinators and Celosia

  • On parenthood, Ben noted the importance of maintaining work-life balance and how becoming a parent has influenced his efficiency and priorities in work.

  • Ben highlighted the importance of efficient systems and processes, like using drone photography and spreadsheets, to streamline his design and project management workflows.

  • He explored the complexities of plant supply chains and genetic variability, expressing a desire for more transparency and knowledge in the horticulture industry.

  • For aspiring horticulturists, Ben encouraged curiosity and self-education while acknowledging the importance of creating viable career paths in horticulture management.

  • Ben recommended resources such as Planting: A New Perspective and The Dynamic Landscape for those interested in naturalistic planting and emphasized the value of exploring academic journals for practical insights.

  • Ben credited accessible resources like books, journals, and webinars for much of his learning and encouraged professionals to share knowledge to inspire the next generation.

  • Ben reflected on the need for the horticulture industry to move beyond traditional practices and embrace more innovative, ecologically sound methods of planting and management.

  • Learn more about Ben by visiting his instagram Wild by Design and his website Wild by Design, where he has multiple resources about grit gardening and the plant list.

28. Preston Montague on Urban Planting and Design

PRESTON MONTAGUE BIO

Preston Montague is a landscape architect and artist working to strengthen relationships between people and the natural world. His eponymous studio focuses on creating a flow between the arts, horticulture, and landscape architecture in the pursuit of building places that have meaning and ecological depth. When not in the studio, Preston enjoys teaching landscape architecture at North Carolina A&T University and hiking the wilder places. You can connect with Preston Montague via his website, Instagram, or LinkedIn.

SHOW NOTES

  • Discussing the ecology and lessons of Panthertown Valley its analog to urban environments

  • Preston’s passion for plants sparked from his mother’s encouragement of art, his father's work with the USDA, and how his love for gardening emerged in his twenties

  • Preston’s practice in the aquarium industry, the influence of Takashi Amano, and his prior work with koi ponds, water lilies, and lotus

  • Preston gives practical advice for adding water features to gardens, suggesting Pontederia cordata (pickerel rush), Lilaeopsis brasiliensis (swordgrass), and Sagittaria latifolia (duck potato), the importance of including small fish to manage mosquitoes, and how aquatic plants can amplify garden resources

  • Preston shares his journey from horticulture to landscape architecture inspired by the interactions in his Greensboro garden, his education at NC State, the practical skills gained, and the decision to pursue a master's in landscape architecture

  • The differences between landscape architecture and residential landscape design

  • He discusses the development of Preston Montague Studio and how it fulfills his dream of creating an artist's studio environment

  • The challenges landscape architects face in incorporating plants into projects due to budget constraints, long timelines

  • The lack of follow-up or post-occupancy evaluation in landscape architecture, which affects plant decisions

  • Preston notes that many landscape architects rely on tried and tested patterns due to time and budget pressures

  • He stresses the need for landscape architects to provide management plans and ensure proper installation of plants

  • The issue of improper plant installations due to availability problems or other constraints

  • He advocates for landscape architects to focus on maintenance and follow-up to improve planting designs

  • Montague suggests involving landscape architects and horticultural consultants in projects to enhance plant use without adding significant overhead

  • Preston’s passion for incorporating shrubs into urban environments

  • Montague describes the benefits of shrubs in creating texture and color in landscapes and their utility in various urban settings

  • He discusses his experience with large-scale herbaceous plantings and the need to adapt them to local climates

  • Montague highlights the importance of shrubs in code-mandated landscapes and the challenges posed by the recent native plant mandate in North Carolina that requires all state-funded projects to use 100% native plants, which also impacts nursery production and landscape design.

  • Preston explains the difficulties in sourcing native shrubs and trees that meet the new regulations

  • Preston shares his experience in promoting native plants and adapting plant palettes to reflect local species.

  • Preston emphasizes the importance of considering the local ecosystem and environment when selecting plants for urban landscapes and how native plants help add ecosystem service potential to large-scale landscapes, such as privacy berms.

  • Succession can be manipulated to maintain certain ecological states, like herbaceous or shrub levels, to suit specific environments.

  • Garden Revolution by Larry Weaner and Thomas Christopher

  • Fire suppression and lack of disturbances in places like the Piedmont affect shrub diversity and ecosystem health.

  • Climax forests need periodic disturbances to maintain diversity and ecosystem health.

  • A planting plan is a snapshot in time; landscapes evolve post-installation.

  • Woodland management techniques, like those at Great Dixter, balance harvesting with promoting species diversity.

  • Promoting shrub use in urban landscapes requires proper management and maintenance.

  • Shrouded in Light by Kevin Philip Williams and Michael Guidi

  • Influencing municipal design involves creating diverse and layered planting plans for habitat creation, and updated plant lists and diverse plant selections are essential for sustainable urban planting.

  • Residential landscape design often mirrors commercial work, focusing on practical and tidy planting solutions

  • Creating layers in planting designs enhances habitat potential and supports biodiversity

  • The importance of structure and diversity in plantings for achieving ecosystem services

  • Effective shrub maintenance and pruning practices are crucial for long-term landscape health

  • Educating clients on proper shrub care and maintenance ensures the success of planting designs

  • Maintenance is often undervalued and underfunded, leading to improper pruning and landscape care practices

  • His drawing practice as a crucial aspect of his design work, emphasizing drawing as a way of thinking with low expectations and judgment

  • Advice for drawers like focus on observation rather than strict accuracy and encouraging participants to lose themselves in the process

  • Project Codex Carolinum involved traveling around the state to draw plants in different seasons and noticing patterns in their habitats

  • Using sketches on photographs or digital platforms like Procreate and AutoCAD to convey design experiences effectively

  • Systems and processes Preston uses like having conversations, post-construction visits, maintenance participation, and documenting work to ensure longevity and competitiveness in the field

  • Time management with email and design

  • Preston's focus on restoration rather than traditional garden design due to the context of development in the Triangle area

  • Balancing time management between design processes and field work during construction for optimal results

  • Landscape Painting Now by Todd Bradway and Barry Schwabsky where Preston is exploring composition, color, and form for inspiration in landscape architecture

  • The magic of visiting Panthertown during mid-August to mid-September for its unique ambiance

  • How to propagate more horticulturists including encouraging conversations and mentorship to propagate a love for horticulture, highlighting the importance of sharing knowledge and experiences within the community

  • How to connect with Preston Montague via his website, Instagram, or LinkedIn

20. Molly Hendry on Telling Stories with Gardens

MOLLY HENDRY BIO

Molly toggles the worlds of design and plants as both a trained horticulturist and landscape architect. Up through July 2023, she was the Associate Director of Gardens Support for the Friends of Birmingham Botanical Gardens for 5 and a half years. There she was actively involved in the horticultural and design development of the 26 unique gardens that make up Birmingham Botanical Gardens. She was also a key support player in the renewal of the Gardens's master plan, in addition to managing ongoing garden projects. Since recording the podcast, she has stepped out to create her own garden design studio, Roots and Ramblings, where she does design work for folks in the Birmingham, Alabama area. With this studio, Molly is most interested in the intersection between people and places. She loves designing gardens for "hands in the dirt" gardeners, focusing on how design is not just a masterplan on a piece of paper, but an ongoing dialogue between a person and a place... often with a spade in hand! One of her top honors is that she spent 10 months living in the UK, sinking her hands into the soil at some of the top gardens across the country as the Garden Club of America's 2016–2017 Royal Horticultural Society's Interchange Fellow. You can learn more about Molly by visiting her website Roots and Ramblings and by following her on Instagram @mollshendry.

SHOW NOTES

  • Molly on her childhood spent outdoors

  • Encouragement from her parents to pursue landscape architecture 

  • Molly’s focus on horticulture and landscape architecture at Auburn University

  • The impact of study abroad trips on Molly and the stories she learned about gardens

  • How Rousham deeply touched Molly

  • Molly’s internship at Winterthur and a valuable lesson learned

  • Experiences while being the Garden Club of America's 2016-2017 Royal Horticultural Society's Interchange Fellow

  • Shadowing Nigel Dunnett and James Hitchmough to learn about naturalistic planting and how to think differently about plants and gardening

  • Time at Great Dixter and lessons learned from Fergus Garrett

  • Fergus’s sketches and mind maps

  • Molly’s roll as Associate Director of Gardens Support for the Friends of Birmingham Botanical Gardens

  • Thoughts on how to illicit emotions in gardens

  • The analogy of garden design with Salt Fat Acid Heat by Samin Nosrat

  • Molly’s approach to designing gardens and questions she asks clients

  • How writing helps Molly be a better gardener and how she reviews her thoughts on New Year’s Day

  • Using the app Notability in the field and Google drive

  • Favorite books including Anne of Green Gables and Russell Page’s Education of a Gardener

  • The myth that we can’t garden the same as the English do

  • Molly’s favorite ice cream flavors

  • Propagating horticulturists by bringing in the human element and engaging with children

  • Learn more about Molly by visiting her website Roots and Ramblings and by following her on Instagram @mollshendry

6. Thomas Rainer on Planting in a Post-wild World

Thomas Rainer’s Biography

Thomas Rainer is a registered landscape architect, teacher, and author that lives in Arlington, Virginia. He is a leading voice in ecological landscape design and has designed landscapes for the U.S. Capitol grounds, the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial, and The New York Botanical Garden, as well as over 100 gardens from Maine to Florida. He is a celebrated public speaker who has garnered acclaim for his passionate presentations to audiences across the U.S. and in Europe. Thomas serves as a Principal for the landscape architectural and consulting firm Phyto Studio in Washington, D.C.

Thomas received his Masters Degree from the University of Georgia. Thomas has worked for the firms Oehme, van Sweden and Associates, and was most recently a Principal at the landscape architectural and planning firm, Rhodeside & Harwell. He has a broad range of experience in project types ranging from intimate residential gardens to expansive estates, rooftop gardens, botanical gardens, large-scale green infrastructure design & implementation, and national memorials. His work has been featured in numerous publications, including The New York Times, Landscape Architecture Magazine, The Washington Post, The Chicago Tribune, and Architectural Digest.

While passionate about design and focusing on details, Thomas is a specialist in applying innovative planting concepts to create ecologically-functional designed landscapes. His recent work focuses on the artful interpretation of wild plant communities into designed plantings that thrive in the context of towns and cities.  He also continues to love working on residential gardens, enjoying the intimate collaboration with clients and creating spaces. 

Thomas teaches planting design for the George Washington University Landscape Design program. His recently published book co-authored with Claudia West, Planting in a Post-Wild World, was released in fall 2015 from Timber Press and was selected by the American Horticultural Society as one of the 2016 books of the year.

You can learn more about Thomas on his website thomasrainer.com, his firm Phyto at phytostudio.com, and on Instagram where his handle is @thomasrainerdc.

SHOW NOTES

2. Caleb Melchior on Being a Landscape Architect

Caleb Melchior’s Biography

Caleb Melchior is a landscape architect and planting designer with Coastal Vista Design, and he teaches Professional Practice, Theory of Landscape Architecture, and Ecological Planting Design at Florida International University. His practice centers on planting design and materiality, with a focus on wild plant communities of the Gulf Coast and Caribbean. He has experience designing fine gardens, estates, and public spaces throughout the southeast United States including P. Allen Smith and Associates in Little Rock, Arkansas and ASA Engineering in Chattanooga, Tennessee. He collaborates with other designers, horticulture experts, and landscape management teams to make sure that design ideas are realized throughout installation and the ongoing life of projects. Caleb is heavily involved with design communication. He presents frequently at landscape and horticulture-related conferences. His work is regularly published in national and international publications such as The American Gardener, Horticulture, and Land8.

You can find him at his website www.calebmelchior.com and on Instagram at @the_curious_gardener.

SHOW NOTES